"NVIDIA has not announced what the event will be for, or any content details, for that matter. However given that it’s a GeForce event and that NVIDIA has already announced their first Pascal architecture GPU for the HPC market, a similar consumer announcement does seem to be the most likely candidate."
Well, a big VR reveal would also fit the bill (if they have one), but yes consumer Pascal is most likely.
An announcement of SLI support for VR apps that weren't created with Nvidia VR would be nice, but they're probably going to sell me a new video card to replace the two in my gaming PC now.
Btw, The HTC Vive is fantastic. It has flaws - visible sub-pixels and Fresnel rings, but the games are totally immersive, and I'm in noticeably better shape after a single week of playing Holoball daily.
"An announcement of SLI support for VR apps that weren't created with Nvidia VR would be nice"
It would also be magic. VR Multi-GPU (regardless of vendor) needs to be implemented and optimised by the game developer. Latency optimisation needs to be performed again for the multi-GPU path, as a completely different set of bottlenecks are involved (e.g. pixel fill rate is greatly increased, but geometry is not, and you have to contend with transactions over the PCIe bus).
I've never thought of the subpixels in VR headsets. Is it in a diamond/nonstandard or rgb stripe layout on the Vive? Would you have preferred either type?
Doubtful. I think that they SHOULD, but doubt they WILL. If they announce DP1.3, but don't support Adaptive Sync, it would be hilarious. My guess is that AMD will push FreeSync over HDMI and DP1.3 on its next wave of GPUs.
Ha! They where pretty adamant about not wanting to support FreeSync back when it came out. If they ever do, it'll be quietly slipped into some hotfix driver and never mentioned.
Well, their notebook GPUs already support VESA Adaptive Sync. They call it "mobile G-Sync" or something. I'm hoping they announce it as "G-Sync Support for VESA Adaptive Sync" or something. Despite what the marketing says, there isn't such a thing as a Freesync monitor, they all support the "VESA Adaptive Sync" standard, all Nvidia has to do is support the same standard and we'll all be happy. They can continue to support their proprietary standard.
How about G-Sync for the standard and G-Sync Platinum for the proprietary thing?
Remains to be seen if it's an actual launch with availability within the next days/weeks or just a paper launch specifically made to just draw attention away from Polaris (which is rumored to be formally announced during the Battlefield 5 reveal, in the same day).
A cut-down GP104 this early in the game performing the same as a Polaris 10 wouldn't bode very well for nVidia since the GP104 is expected to be have a ~40% larger die.
Might as well just rebrand the GM204 and lower its price in order to fill that performance slot, until GP106 is ready.
Depends on what yields are like and you're also discounting the idea that this part wouldn't eviscerate Polaris 10 performance-wise, which is always a possibility. We'll never know until the benchmarks are out.
Rumor mongering I've seen elsewhere suggests that although both're going to be doing paper launches, nVidia will have hardware shipped to customers first.
Although not impossible, that would be very odd, since AMD has been showing functional hardware to the public since the CES in January, whereas Jen Hsun Huang had to show the Drive PX2 with Maxwell MXM cards (where it was supposed to have Pascal cards).
He didn't "have to". It wasn't a product demonstration, it was a mock-up showing the form factor of the board. AMD is just desperate to show investors something, whereas NVIDIA is not. AMD has been going out of their way to make promises for a while now. It's understandable because they have not been doing so well. But you need to take it into consideration when you're trying to read what their public displays mean.
I hope it's got something to do with consumer Pascal. I've been interested in seeing what NV has coming in the mid- to low-end desktop GPU segment since the 9xx doesn't really have a low end as there really wasn't a point in doing a refresh of of the 7xx cards without having smaller transistors available. Unfortunately, if they do announce Pascal product details, they'll probably talk exclusively about their larger and more pointless top tier graphics cards as always. For once I'd like to see the GPU market release the more sensible volume products first. We need pressure on Intel so they're less stingy on the eDRAM-equipped processors.
AMDs IGPs are competitive; but their current CPUs aren't leaving them to only the lowest end boxes. On the Intel side, they don't put largest size GPU on socketed desktop chips; and the soldered cpu with Iris pro is much more expensive than a basic i3 and an entry level Amd/nVidia GPU card.
Even if Xen closes the CPU performance gap, you'll still have a large number of low knowledge consumers who "know" discrete cards are better than integrated graphics, and the BoxMart employee's will gladly sell them a more expensive computer.
Lastly, a cheap upgrade GPU can get another 2-3 years of use from a system at low quality settings the same way a $200/600 upgrade can extend the amount of time an existing system can keep playing at medium/high settings.
Intel's IGPs are competitive too. If you don't play games, an intel IGP will do. If you do play games, an AMD IGP will do for a few titles, but for most, you'll have to sacrifice IQ/resolution anyway.
I can't believe they scheduled this during prime time?!?!?... oh wait, does prime-time television even still exist? I guess I've been out of the loop for quite some time now.
And it's on Saturday morning, when stock market is closed. Makes me a bit worried about this launch event.
It seems, that the vast numbers of Hawaians and Tahitians will enjoy this live event. For 85% of the population it's either early or late Saturday morning...
Does Twitch pass along money to the person running the stream if they have a substantial number of viewers? I often wonder if there's market appeal for someone who's more likely to be accused of being a cougar than the commonplace teens to twenties girls that get an audience by using a pushup bra and a plunging neckline top.
I think a paper launch on twitch is pretty unlikely at this juncture. More likely an example of a prototype gaming or some such. Just to wet peoples appetites and make sure that they wait for Nvidia's new DX12 ready lineup instead of dropping their cash on the AMD offering at launch, which the consensus is should hit the streets first.
LOL they're not really going with a 10xx series are they? It's time to ditch the Geforce or perhaps the GTX name and move to letters similar to their G, K, M, etc codename. Just call it the P80, P60, etc.
That's what the rumors say. But those rumors are older than this May 6th announcement rumor. I did previously see a rumor that NVIDIA would launch Pascal 2 weeks before Computex. Personally, I find it hard to believe NVIDIA would release full details a month before availability. I think either chips will be available long before June or this little stunt will just be a teaser of some sort. But we'll see, I guess.
I am not able to view the supposed stream of this event at https://www.twitch.tv/nvidia the stream is supposed to be live but every time I refresh I get 1 frame. I have Windows 7 x64 and am using Chrome. What is wrong with the stream?
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BurntMyBacon - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
"NVIDIA has not announced what the event will be for, or any content details, for that matter. However given that it’s a GeForce event and that NVIDIA has already announced their first Pascal architecture GPU for the HPC market, a similar consumer announcement does seem to be the most likely candidate."Well, a big VR reveal would also fit the bill (if they have one), but yes consumer Pascal is most likely.
JeffFlanagan - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
An announcement of SLI support for VR apps that weren't created with Nvidia VR would be nice, but they're probably going to sell me a new video card to replace the two in my gaming PC now.Btw, The HTC Vive is fantastic. It has flaws - visible sub-pixels and Fresnel rings, but the games are totally immersive, and I'm in noticeably better shape after a single week of playing Holoball daily.
edzieba - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
"An announcement of SLI support for VR apps that weren't created with Nvidia VR would be nice"It would also be magic. VR Multi-GPU (regardless of vendor) needs to be implemented and optimised by the game developer. Latency optimisation needs to be performed again for the multi-GPU path, as a completely different set of bottlenecks are involved (e.g. pixel fill rate is greatly increased, but geometry is not, and you have to contend with transactions over the PCIe bus).
JeffFlanagan - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
Thanks for the knowledge edzieba.Alexvrb - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
When you factor in DX12 and Vulkan, doesn't that sort of depend on what multi-GPU rendering mode/method they're using?Gigaplex - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
If you're using the multi adapter feature of DX12, you're not using SLI.skavi - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
I've never thought of the subpixels in VR headsets. Is it in a diamond/nonstandard or rgb stripe layout on the Vive? Would you have preferred either type?TristanSDX - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
They will introduce support for FreeSyncnathanddrews - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
Doubtful. I think that they SHOULD, but doubt they WILL. If they announce DP1.3, but don't support Adaptive Sync, it would be hilarious. My guess is that AMD will push FreeSync over HDMI and DP1.3 on its next wave of GPUs.MrSpadge - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
Haha, good one!Mr Perfect - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
Ha! They where pretty adamant about not wanting to support FreeSync back when it came out. If they ever do, it'll be quietly slipped into some hotfix driver and never mentioned.Flunk - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
Well, their notebook GPUs already support VESA Adaptive Sync. They call it "mobile G-Sync" or something. I'm hoping they announce it as "G-Sync Support for VESA Adaptive Sync" or something. Despite what the marketing says, there isn't such a thing as a Freesync monitor, they all support the "VESA Adaptive Sync" standard, all Nvidia has to do is support the same standard and we'll all be happy. They can continue to support their proprietary standard.How about G-Sync for the standard and G-Sync Platinum for the proprietary thing?
ToTTenTranz - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
Remains to be seen if it's an actual launch with availability within the next days/weeks or just a paper launch specifically made to just draw attention away from Polaris (which is rumored to be formally announced during the Battlefield 5 reveal, in the same day).ImSpartacus - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
Head to head, eh? Interesting.Are we still expecting a "1060 Ti" to go head to head with Polaris 10's vr min spec part? That'll be interesting.
ToTTenTranz - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
A cut-down GP104 this early in the game performing the same as a Polaris 10 wouldn't bode very well for nVidia since the GP104 is expected to be have a ~40% larger die.Might as well just rebrand the GM204 and lower its price in order to fill that performance slot, until GP106 is ready.
Flunk - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
Depends on what yields are like and you're also discounting the idea that this part wouldn't eviscerate Polaris 10 performance-wise, which is always a possibility. We'll never know until the benchmarks are out.DanNeely - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
Rumor mongering I've seen elsewhere suggests that although both're going to be doing paper launches, nVidia will have hardware shipped to customers first.ToTTenTranz - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
Although not impossible, that would be very odd, since AMD has been showing functional hardware to the public since the CES in January, whereas Jen Hsun Huang had to show the Drive PX2 with Maxwell MXM cards (where it was supposed to have Pascal cards).Flunk - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
AMD has a history of paper launches. Take the Fury Pro Duo, still can't find it anywhere.Yojimbo - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
He didn't "have to". It wasn't a product demonstration, it was a mock-up showing the form factor of the board. AMD is just desperate to show investors something, whereas NVIDIA is not. AMD has been going out of their way to make promises for a while now. It's understandable because they have not been doing so well. But you need to take it into consideration when you're trying to read what their public displays mean.BrokenCrayons - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
I hope it's got something to do with consumer Pascal. I've been interested in seeing what NV has coming in the mid- to low-end desktop GPU segment since the 9xx doesn't really have a low end as there really wasn't a point in doing a refresh of of the 7xx cards without having smaller transistors available. Unfortunately, if they do announce Pascal product details, they'll probably talk exclusively about their larger and more pointless top tier graphics cards as always. For once I'd like to see the GPU market release the more sensible volume products first. We need pressure on Intel so they're less stingy on the eDRAM-equipped processors.ToTTenTranz - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
I understand the "mid-end" part, but what's the point in releasing low-end desktop GPUs nowadays, where the integrated GPUs can easily fill the role?DanNeely - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
AMDs IGPs are competitive; but their current CPUs aren't leaving them to only the lowest end boxes. On the Intel side, they don't put largest size GPU on socketed desktop chips; and the soldered cpu with Iris pro is much more expensive than a basic i3 and an entry level Amd/nVidia GPU card.Even if Xen closes the CPU performance gap, you'll still have a large number of low knowledge consumers who "know" discrete cards are better than integrated graphics, and the BoxMart employee's will gladly sell them a more expensive computer.
Lastly, a cheap upgrade GPU can get another 2-3 years of use from a system at low quality settings the same way a $200/600 upgrade can extend the amount of time an existing system can keep playing at medium/high settings.
bug77 - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
Intel's IGPs are competitive too. If you don't play games, an intel IGP will do. If you do play games, an AMD IGP will do for a few titles, but for most, you'll have to sacrifice IQ/resolution anyway.Murloc - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
steam statistics say that intel IGPs are good for certain kinds of gaming too.bloodinmyveins - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/4AM for me :D
mrvco - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
I can't believe they scheduled this during prime time?!?!?... oh wait, does prime-time television even still exist? I guess I've been out of the loop for quite some time now.Zarniw00p - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
And it's on Saturday morning, when stock market is closed. Makes me a bit worried about this launch event.It seems, that the vast numbers of Hawaians and Tahitians will enjoy this live event. For 85% of the population it's either early or late Saturday morning...
nandnandnand - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
Isn't Twitch only supposed to be for game streaming? I guess they would run porn if they were paid enough.mrvco - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
Hotties playing games is a start.BrokenCrayons - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
Does Twitch pass along money to the person running the stream if they have a substantial number of viewers? I often wonder if there's market appeal for someone who's more likely to be accused of being a cougar than the commonplace teens to twenties girls that get an audience by using a pushup bra and a plunging neckline top.Salvor - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
A release of a new set of consumer GPUs is gaming related, definitely belongs on Twitch.willis936 - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
This is about as tinfoil hat as you can get short of claiming Wal-Mart pays Kellogg for cereal to sell to unsuspecting consumers.T1beriu - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
The way I'm reading this is that Anandtech wasn't invited. :/waltsmith - Thursday, May 5, 2016 - link
I think a paper launch on twitch is pretty unlikely at this juncture. More likely an example of a prototype gaming or some such. Just to wet peoples appetites and make sure that they wait for Nvidia's new DX12 ready lineup instead of dropping their cash on the AMD offering at launch, which the consensus is should hit the streets first.JoeMonco - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
Or they could be trying to WHET people's appetite.Samus - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
Release Pascal before Polaris? That'd really burn.Yojimbo - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
That's been the rumor for a while now.tipoo - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
It's looking like it will paper launch before Polaris, but Polaris will ship first, no?
beck2050 - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
Reports from multiple sources say 1080 etc for retail sale in June.Samus - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
LOL they're not really going with a 10xx series are they? It's time to ditch the Geforce or perhaps the GTX name and move to letters similar to their G, K, M, etc codename. Just call it the P80, P60, etc.Yojimbo - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
That's what the rumors say. But those rumors are older than this May 6th announcement rumor. I did previously see a rumor that NVIDIA would launch Pascal 2 weeks before Computex. Personally, I find it hard to believe NVIDIA would release full details a month before availability. I think either chips will be available long before June or this little stunt will just be a teaser of some sort. But we'll see, I guess.Aslan7 - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
I am not able to view the supposed stream of this event at https://www.twitch.tv/nvidia the stream is supposed to be live but every time I refresh I get 1 frame. I have Windows 7 x64 and am using Chrome. What is wrong with the stream?Ashinjuka - Friday, May 6, 2016 - link
GTX 1080 - 9 TFLOPS, 8GB GDDR5X - $599 MSRP - $699 Founders Edition, May 27thGTX 1070 - 6.5 TFLOPS, 8GB GDDR5 - $379 MSRP - $449 Founders Edition, June 10th (FASTER THAN TITAN X)
Visual - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - link
Well, isn't it high time you update this piece or post a follow-up about what this was all about?